Update 3 April 2005
All the New Lists are Up!

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Not quite two weeks ago, I posted on the One- and Two-Way lists that NATCA had set up all new servers and software to operate the Union's listserves nationwide.  This meant transferring all of our subscribers to our various lists to the new lists as well as creating lists for those areas that did not yet have them.  Effective immediately, all of the areas, plus TMU and Staff each have their own list serves.  And, of course, the One- and Two-Way lists for facility-wide issues are already up and running.

 
The good news for our technically-challenged Members is that you need do nothing to continue receiving and replying to messages from any list to which you are subscribed!  Everyone who was subscribed, is still subscribed.  The only reason you would need to make any changes is if you want to start a topic (or post a message without having it be a reply to something that you received).  But to do so, all you'll have to do is use the new addresses shown here:
 
Any email you get from these lists will be addressed to the addresses shown here so if you like to use filters or message rules to move or highlight your email, you can use the addresses.  Another option is to use the "Subject Lead" as those will display at the beginning of every subject line you get - even if the initial post has no specified subject.*
 
Now, the other thing, of course, is the fact that many of our areas had no previous list serve.  So to start out, every Member in the specified area for whom we have an email address has been subscribed.  I will send out simple instructions to each individual list serve since even some of the established area lists have new subscribers.
 
The last thing you need to know is that the old lists will cease to exist on or shortly after Monday, 11 APR 2005.  You can continue to use the old addresses until then but I would HIGHLY recommend you update your address books as soon as you can.  I can not control when the old lists are terminated so it's possible they might go early.
 
If you have any questions, please email me directly at zfwcomms@natca.net.  It may be weeks before I see any questions here on the lists since I get so much email.
 
Fraternally,
 
    M. B. "Colonel" Ingersoll
    Communications,
    NATCA Local ZFW
    zfwcomms@natca.net
 
*  Of course, the only people who can send messages to the One-Way list are the President, Vice President, and a few others but it is listed here for those who may wish to set filters or message rules.

 


 

Update 28 March 2005
One- & Two-Way Lists are Up!

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Effective immediately, the new versions of the two facility-wide list serves (the "One-Way" and the "Two-Way" or "ZFW Announce" and "ZFW Voice") are in use.  Everyone who was subscribed to the old versions is subscribed to the new versions.  You don't have to do anything to continue to receive messages from these two lists or reply to the "two-way."
 
However, if you want to initiate a message (that is, send a message without making it a reply to a previously sent message) you must update the addresses in your email program.
 
Here are the new addresses:
Please note that the periods in the addresses were changed to dashes and the domain is now list.natca.net.
 
If you use filters or message rules to sort your messages into different folders, you can use the new addresses in the "TO" field or, if you want to use the "SUBJECT" field, the new subject tags (this is a change from the first announcement) are now ZFW-ONE-WAY for the one-way list and ZFW-TWO-WAY for the two-way list.
 
The old addresses will continue to work as we transition over but please make the changes to your address books as soon as you can and use the new addresses.  The old addresses will cease to exist at some point in the not too distant future - and I'll let you know when that as soon as I know when that is.
 
I have some administrative tweaking to do on the two-way and then I'll be working on the area lists.  I'll post another message as those come online.
 
Fraternally,

    M. B. "Colonel" Ingersoll
    Communications,
    NATCA Local ZFW
    zfwcomms@natca.net
 
P.S.  This message is also available at http://zfw.natca.net/misc/newlists.htm

 


 

Information:
The New List Serves

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This message is going out to ALL of the existing list serves for NATCA Local ZFW.
 
NATCA has set up all new servers and software to operate the Union's listserves nationwide.  This will mean some changes for us at ZFW.  The addresses of all the lists are changing but, for right now, you don't need to do anything.  Nothing is going to change for about a week (I hope!).
 
But I would encourage you to save this message and use it, when you have time, to prepare your email software for the new system.  If you do nothing, you should continue to receive messages from the lists to which you are subscribed.  And you will be able to reply to them, as well (except the "One-Way" list, of course), even if you don not make the changes.  However, if you do not make the changes, you will not be able to initiate a message (in other words, create the first message on a new topic).
 
I will list all the changes (and there will be some new lists created) below.  And another important change will be in the Subject lines - Currently the first part of the subject says "ZFW Voice" or "ZFW POS" or something of that nature.  Many of us use those Subject lines to create filters (or "Message Rules" in Outlook Express).  These Subject line will change so, if you use filters/rules, you will want to add these to the appropriate rules in order to have uninterrupted "filtering" of your messages.  There's no need to delete the old filters/rules.*
 
Last two notes before I show the changes - I only handle the list serves for our Local - any changes to NSW or NNH lists will be handled by those administrators (now known as "list owners").  Secondly, many of our subscribers were dropped when the NCC initially set up the new system (and, UKW, your list was completely ignored) so I'm having to go through each list and get everyone back on board - this is time-consuming but I'm working through them all as quickly as I can.  I hope to have everything set when we make the change-over.  Again, this problem is only with the new lists!
 

 
OK, below are the existing lists and their corresponding new lists.  If you have any questions, please email me directly as I cannot monitor all the list serve traffic.  [Note the "." characters change to "-" and the addition of "list." to the domain name...]
 
Current Name, Address & Subject Lead              New Address & Subject Lead
"One-Way" zfw.announce@natca.net, "Announcements" zfw-announce@list.natca.net, "ZFW One-Way"
"Two-Way" zfw.voice@natca.net, "ZFW Voice"        zfw-voice@list.natca.net, "ZFW Two-Way"
"BYP" [new]                                       zfw-byp@list.natca.net, "BYP Area"
"CQY" [new]                                       zfw-cqy@list.natca.net, "CQY Area"
"EBoard" zfw.eboard@natca.net, "eBoard"           zfw-eboard@list.natca.net, "ZFW EBoard"
"FRI" zfw.fri@natca.net, "ZFW FRI"?**             zfw-fri@list.natca.net, "FRI Area"
"JEN" [new]                                       zfw-jen@list.natca.net, "JEN Area"
"POS" zfw.pos@natca.net, "ZFW POS"                zfw-pos@list.natca.net, "POS Area"
"STO" [new]                                       zfw-sto@list.natca.net, "Staff & Others"
"TMU" [new]                                       zfw-tmu@list.natca.net, "ZFW TMU"
"UIM" zfw.uim@natca.net, "UIM"                    zfw-uim@list.natca.net, "UIM Area"
"UKW" zfw.ukw@natca.net, "ZFW UKW"                zfw-ukw@list.natca.net, "UKW Area"
 

 
OK, that's about it for now.  As I get new information, I'll pass it on.  And I'll also let everyone know the day we'll make the change.
 
One other thing - you may get some weird test messages - or things about your "name being changed" - bear with me, I'm trying to stop those notifications from going out to you, but sometimes I miss it.
 
Thanks for your patience during this huge change.
 
Fraternally,

    M. B. "Colonel" Ingersoll
    Communications,
    NATCA Local ZFW
    zfwcomms@natca.net
 
 
*   The Subject line text (e.g. "ZFW One-Way") may not be displayed by default.  I'm working on that.  Until you see the Subject line text, I would recommend that you not use that for filters/rule, but set your filters/rules to recognize the address (e.g. zfw-announce@list.natca.net) in the "To:" line.  That will work.
 
**  Don't recall exactly what the text is now and the current system is locked for now so I can't check it.

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